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In this episode I sit down with Jules, a submissive masochist and primal prey whose journey into BDSM has been shaped by chronic pain, storytelling, and the exploration of extreme edge play. Jules shares how BDSM has helped them reframe their relationship with pain, power, and pleasure, and how working as a phone sex operator deepened their understanding of erotic psychology.
We discuss:
How BDSM helps manage and reframe chronic pain.
The psychological appeal of masochism, edge play, and CNC.
The power of storytelling in shaping erotic identity.
What phone sex work reveals about the psychology of fantasy.
The fluidity of sexuality, gender, and fetish exploration.
Research Paper: Chronic Pain as Fluid, BDSM as Control
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Emma
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